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| ||The North Central Chapter of NACBA|
(National Association of Church Business Administration)
|Friday Epistle Archives|
The Friday Epistle
A project of the North Central Chapter of NACBA,
the National Association of Church Business Administration
Friday, June 1, 2012 firstname.lastname@example.org www.nacbancc.org
NACBA – The National Association of Church Business Administration
The National Association of Church Business Administration® is an inter-denominational association of churches and individuals which exists to serve the Church by advancing professional excellence in individuals serving Christ through administration in local churches. If you are involved in any capacity with church administration, or if you desire a professional relationship with NACBA, there is a membership classification for you. We encourage your participation. Learn more at www.nacba.net.
The North Central Chapter of NACBA
The National Association of Church Business Administration
Our Mission: To empower Christian ministry through support of church administration.
Our Vision: To equip and reach out to people in church administration through education,
connection, and communication.
The 2012 meeting schedule is on line at www.nacbancc.org/mschedule.asp.
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Minnesota Association of Church Facility Managers
MACFM (www.macfm.org) was established to promote fellowship, networking and educational opportunities for Christian Facilities Professionals (managers, maintenance, custodians), through the form of monthly meetings, discussion groups, and professional training. Come check us out!
For more information contact:
President, Jim Theis, email@example.com,
or call (612) 618-1727
Tip of the Week Section
Need a Wheelchair, Crutches or Other Medical Equipment?
Goodwill/Easter Seals Minnesota lends assistive living medical equipment to anyone in need. They offer wheelchairs, commodes, walkers, crutches and more free of charge in this temporary loan program. They make short-term loans of equipment for up to two months. Please make those in your congregation aware of this service. Learn more at http://www.goodwilleasterseals.org/site/PageServer?pagename=serv_other_medequip.
Share the Knowledge Section
Advice on Audits Needed
I'm looking to do a financial audit and am interested in what other churches are doing.
Do you do an internal audit? What does that look like and who does it? Do you pay for a professional audit? How often do you do it and how much does it cost? Do you have a recommendation of an individual or audit firm? I'm specifically interested in what churches with an attendance of 400-700 and/or operating budget around $500k are doing. Thanks for your feedback!
N6714 470th Street
Menomonie, WI 54751-1281
Library Furnishing Advice Needed
Elmwood Church is getting ready to “re-do” its library. We are looking into what would be the best option for library shelving. What have other churches done for library shelving? We would like to get something sturdy, that won’t sag under the weight of books, is attractive, yet economical. Thank you.
Elmwood Evangelical Free Church
3615 Chelmsford Road N.E.
Saint Anthony, MN 55418-1739
Telecommunications Advice Needed
We're still investigating to determine what company we want to move our voice and data to. I'd like any info from those of you who use TDS. Does anyone have experience with their products & services? Are there hidden costs that you found out about after you made your decision? Would you stay with them? Thanks for your information sharing.
Oak Grove Presbyterian Church
2200 West Old Shakopee Rd.
Bloomington, MN 55431-3034
Staffing Structure Questions
We're evaluating our staffing structure and planning for future staffing growth. So I'm poling my peers to get an idea of how other churches may be staffed.
I'm especially interested in feedback from churches with 500-1000 in weekly attendance.
1. What's your average weekend attendance (adults, kids)?
2. How many adult members do you have?
3. What is your annual operating budget? Do you have facilities capital/loan costs paid out of your operating budget? If so, how much?
4. What % of your annual operating budget is HR?
5. Do you have an organizational chart/reporting structure you'd be willing to share with me?
6. Are you willing to share a list of paid positions and their employee/contractor status as well as their PT/FT percentage?
7. Do you have a guideline for your office hour expectations for pastoral & ministry leader staff?
8. What is the square footage of your facility and how is your facilities staffing structured?
N6714 470th Street
Menomonie, WI 54751-1281
Sign Policy Needed
We just installed a permanent outdoor signs to post worship hours and other special events. (The sign is a block from the church and a ladder is needed to change the message on both sides. This is not ideal but our only option.) I need to come up with a policy so I don’t have groups asking every day to have their ministry highlighted. I would appreciate any policies/procedures that are working for you. Blessings,
Our Saviour's Lutheran Church
19001 Jackson Street NE
East Bethel, MN 55011-9544
Beg, Buy, Sell, or Give-Away Section
“Gather” Books – Free!
Delano church has 500+ green Gather books we are willing to part with. No charge to an interested church, though a donation would be appreciated. Please contact
Parish Business Administrator
Delano Catholic Community
Churches of St. Peter & St. Joseph
204 S. River St.
Delano, MN 55328-9242
Emmaus Lutheran in Bloomington is doing a sanctuary remodel and update this summer and have about 30 solid oak pews, each 15 ft. long, that we would like to find a "good home" for $100 each (negotiable) but you must haul them. Check ‘em out at www.nacbancc.org/images/pews1.jpg and www.nacbancc.org/images/pews2.jpg. Contact me for more information.
Director of Administration
Emmaus Lutheran Church
8443 2nd Avenue South
Bloomington, MN 55420-2339
Grand Piano for Sale
I have a 5'7" Samick grand piano with a rich walnut finish that would look and sound beautiful in a church. Price $6425. See a photo at www.nacbancc.org/images/piano.jpg. Please contact
Sauder Oaklink/Paragon Chairs For Sale
100-150 Sauder Oaklink Paragon chairs by Sauder Church Furnishings. New approx. $160 each. For sale $20 each. Currently 100-150 are available with another 100 or so to follow later in 2012. Photo at http://www.sauderworship.com/protestant--evangelical/chairs/oaklok--paragon.html. Please contact
Pastor Eric Walbolt
Servant of Christ Lutheran Church
740 Hayden Lake Rd E
Champlin, MN 55316-1407
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